Marvel Centers Whiteness, Even When Trying To Be Diverse

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  • Tony1

    Dude, stop with your clickbait bullshit. The movie did not adapt from Miles Morales. Only ignorant people think this. The ONLY thing that’s adapted from the Miles Morales story is Ned Leeds’ character being very similar to Ganke. THAT’S IT!!!!! What else did this movie adapt from Miles Morales??

    1. High school setting? Nope, original Peter Parker did it first.
    2. Liz Allan being a crush? Nope, Liz Allan is a character from the original Peter Parker days.
    3. Vulture? Nope, a villain in the original Peter Parker days.
    4. Aunt May is in the movie? Obviously an original Spider-Man character.
    5. Flash is in the movie? Obviously an original Spider-Man character.
    6. Web wings? Obviously an original Spider-Man element.
    7. The Shocker s villain in the film? A Peter Parker villain from the original comic books.
    8. The Tinkerer a villain in the film? A Peter Parker villain from the original comic books.
    9. A high school Peter Parker, trying to balance his high school life with fighting crime? Original Peter Parker obviously did this first. I mean, this was his original storyline from the beginning, no surprise.

    So, there you go. All these elements are clearly original Peter Parker elements. So, knowing all this, why do you minorities keep whining and bitching about Homecoming mining or ripping off Miles Morales, when that is CLEARLY not the case? Nothing about Miles Morales is interesting enough to put him on screen, other than him being colored, which only excites……..MINORITIES. There is nothing special about Miles Morales. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. He is colored, and he deals with racism. That is the ONLY thing that separates him from Peter Parker. Wow, that’s what you want to see? A colored hero who deals with racism, so you and other minorities can get reassurance about racism in society, something you like to hang off of in order to continue having a reason and justification to argue AGAINST white people?????????

    Seriously, Jacob Batalon resembling Ganke is the ONLY similarity to Miles Morales’s storyline, and yet you have the audacity to actually claim this movie is ripping off Miles Morales and his whole story? No, you are just upset that despite colored people being in this movie, you are not satisfied until the main character is black, and the only white people in the movie are minor supporting ones with very little screen time. Admit it, that is your ideal situation.

    I just called out your bullshit, your blatant ignorance of the subject matter (refer to the list above again), and your subtle angst towards white people in Hollywood.

    • There is so much to unpack here.

      1. The Ultimate Spider-Man (Miles Morales) was clearly a take on the original Spider-Man story, just modernized. I never claimed that The Vulture or web wings or Aunt May belonged to Miles. People that have never even opened a comic book know that. But in creating Miles Morales, Marvel attempted to create a Spider-Man more closely aligned with current day and not the 60’s.

      2. A big part of that is his supporting cast is not all white people. Current Parker books are much more diverse, but they also depict him as a high-powered tech CEO. So there’s that. Once there is a retconned line of Spider-Man books where Peter Parker has classmates of color, your arguments might have the least bit of a leg to stand on.

      3. I’m not upset that Sony and Marvel are making a Spider-Man story with a white Peter Parker. They’ve done that a million times already, and I don’t expect them to stop anytime soon. I find it sad and highly indicative of Hollywood’s thinking that they can adapt elements from the Miles Morales books, especially the HUGE difference in that he has a friend that knows he is Spider-Man, and fuse them into classic Peter Parker storytelling. I’m glad there is a diverse cast. I hope they all got fat checks. I’m not glad that they are centering a diverse cast around a white protagonist for PR reasons and to get more butts in the seats.

      4. I’m not trying to convince to change your stance on any other this. Just in reading your comment, I can see you have some clear racial animus and angst, and I’m assuming you’ll be holding onto those tightly. But you can’t argue against that profitability of movies and shows with diverse casts and (gasp) diverse leads. Those are just facts.

      5. My angst towards white people in Hollywood is not subtle. It is chronicled pretty extensively on this site. This movie is just another example of why that angst exists.

    • There is so much to unpack here.

      1. The Ultimate Spider-Man (Miles Morales) was clearly a take on the original Spider-Man story, just modernized. I never claimed that The Vulture or web wings or Aunt May belonged to Miles. People that have never even opened a comic book know that. But in creating Miles Morales, Marvel attempted to create a Spider-Man more closely aligned with current day and not the 60’s.

      2. A big part of that is his supporting cast is not all white people. Current Parker books are much more diverse, but they also depict him as a high-powered tech CEO. So there’s that. Once there is a retconned line of Spider-Man books where Peter Parker has classmates of color, your arguments might have the least bit of a leg to stand on.

      3. I’m not upset that Sony and Marvel are making a Spider-Man story with a white Peter Parker. They’ve done that a million times already, and I don’t expect them to stop anytime soon. I find it sad and highly indicative of Hollywood’s thinking that they can adapt elements from the Miles Morales books, especially the HUGE difference in that he has a friend that knows he is Spider-Man, and fuse them into classic Peter Parker storytelling. I’m glad there is a diverse cast. I hope they all got fat checks. I’m not glad that they are centering a diverse cast around a white protagonist for PR reasons and to get more butts in the seats.

      4. I’m not trying to convince to change your stance on any other this. Just in reading your comment, I can see you have some clear racial animus and angst, and I’m assuming you’ll be holding onto those tightly. But you can’t argue against that profitability of movies and shows with diverse casts and (gasp) diverse leads. Those are just facts.

      5. My angst towards white people in Hollywood is not subtle. It is chronicled pretty extensively on this site. This movie is just another example of why that angst exists.

      • Tony1

        Your arguments are just hints of racism. Seriously, anyone who has a PROBLEM with white people in any form or variation……..is a closet racist, PERIOD.

        Seriously, very few people read modern comic books now. Iron Man is a little black girl. Thor has been a woman for a few years. The Hulk is now Asian. Seriously, Marvel is doing this just to be politically correct.

        I’m a minority, and I don’t give two shits about minorities getting lead roles. It’s not something I care about, and never have cared about in my life. Ang Lee has won two Oscars for Best Director, one more than Martin Scorsese. And he’ll likely win his third in the next few years. I’ve never thought, “Look at that minority getting all the praise!! Wooohoooo!” No, you idiot minorities have such an identity crisis. Why do you minorities get so bitchy and whiny about lack of diversity in roles? Why are minorities so up in arms that people who look like them, aren’t in more leads? Why does it matter? Why do you minorities so fervently associate yourself with people who play PRETEND in front of a camera?

        More diverse casts are not guaranteed to make better movies. MOST of the best films that get nominated every year, are virtually all white casts. So, it’s not a quality thing at all. This has nothing to do with you wanting higher quality films, because those already exist with almost all white casts. So what is it? It’s just minorities are tired of seeing white people get all the fame and attention, and these minorities like you whine and bitch that people who don’t look like them aren’t getting attention. It’s an ego thing. You want to feel proud, you want to feel happy colored people are getting their 15 minutes of fame. Do you see how childish and stupid that sounds? This NEED, this craving to see LESS white people on screen……..that’s a subtle hint of racism there, pal.

        You even admit to being racist in your comment. A movie can have 99% colored people. But the lead is white, and that still bothers you. You want either ZERO white people, or white people with very little screen time. You have a problem with white people…..period.

        And don’t give me this bullshit about, “But Spider-Man takes place in Queens, and Queens is very diverse.” Yes, Queens is very diverse, that’s why you have Liz Harrier, Jacob Batalon, Tony Revolori, and Zendaya as the main supporting cast members. But guess what, white people exist in Queens too. Queens isn’t ALL colored. There exists white people. So, having white people in this Spider-Man movie, is something you SHOULD NOT be complaining about, got it? And if you are still mad that Miles Morales isn’t the lead, get the fuck over it. Miles Morales isn’t interesting to the mainstream public, because his story isn’t interesting at all. His comic book series is only popular with virtually minorities. Peter Parker is as popular in society as Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent. Nobody wants to see a colored Batman or colored Superman. I mean, if any of these characters become colored, then if Hollywood decides to make a reboot movie about the character Shaft, then it would be alright to make Shaft white, right????

        And stop saying Homecoming adapted Miles’ story. What? The ONLY thing they adapted was the Ganke character……that’s it!!! Why are you acting like they adapted more than that?? Are you stupid or something?

        I’m a colored person myself, yet I could care less about minorities not having bigger roles. So, why do I feel this way, and you don’t?!?!?!!? Maybe it’s because I don’t tie my IDENTITY and my RACE as a whole, to people who play make believe. Maybe because I don’t see people who play make believe in front of a camera, as people who need to be a representation or object of worship for a whole goddamn race!!